Supernatural and Paranormal Issues

I don’t know where to start and I tend to get hung up on introductions for an overly long time so I’ll just jump right in.  I have been conversing with some people about the subject of paranormal and/or supernatural issues and phenomena as it relates to multiplicity.  As with any other group of people, our experiences cover a wide range.  There is a diversity in the types of experiences amongst inside people.  With a Christian host, and a Christian “cover” – meaning that the persons or people designed to be in front for so many years were Christians – it can be difficult to know how to interpret information from other inside people when they speak of experiences or information outside the religious box.  Conservative Christians would tend to label auras, astral projection, the idea of chakras (and even yoga or meditation) as “New Age” and “sinful” and leave it at that.  I have had people tell me that even reading about lucid dreaming and other dimensions, etc, is a sin and I am opening myself up to torment by evil spirits. While I appreciate their concern, I don’t believe my Jesus died to create a new line of men who are so extremely frail and vulnerable that simply reading words on a page about a particular subject would somehow strip them of what they’ve been given in Christ and open a door wide to the enemy.  And also…for the record…I’ve never felt God chastising me for curiosity or questioning.  I believe He would warn me somehow, or show me the way of deliverance, if in my innocence I was playing with fire.  He’s a good dad like that.

So the thing is, in my position, I can’t dismiss these subjects.  As leader to a host of inside people – most of whom are younger than me – I get the burden (or privilege, depending on what day you ask me) of hearing a LOT of stories, and these besides the ones I am a direct witness to.  There may be readers out there who can look a 3-yr-old in the eyes and tell them that they don’t really see people’s “colors” (auras), even though that 3-yr-old has been 100% accurate in her perceptions every single time.  But I am not one of those people.  To further complicate things, I relied on her interpretation of what the colors meant, for years.  I never questioned her, because it just never occurred to me.  Recently I had one of my assistants do a bit of research into aura colors, and to our surprise, the little one’s understanding of what the colors meant about the person were generally correct according to a variety of sources.  Now, the popular opinion on auras is that color meanings can vary according to color intensity, and just like dreams, can mean different things to different people.  But her overall impressions have been consistently reliable.  These are the kinds of things I cannot explain.  As a Christian, I cannot tell this little girl that she’s wrong just because, silly child, we’re not “supposed” to “believe” in auras.  I believe her.  It takes her about 0.28 seconds to size people up, and know what they’re about.  She can’t always express it in abstract terms…since she’s 3…but I make a point to listen when we meet someone new and she happens to be around.

Which, as a rabbit trail, brings up a point about communicating with little people.  Young children have not developed that part of their brains yet that can comprehend abstract thinking.  It’s been many, many years since I had a college psychology class, but I believe the age where abstract concepts start becoming feasible for children to grasp begins at around age 9 or 10.  This might be a bit younger now, in 2014, since kids seem to grow up at an accelerated pace with every passing generation.  BUT, at 3 years old, everything is literal.  Everything is understood as literal.  Everything is expressed very literally.  My little friend, referenced above, would be more likely to tell me that someone is “red” right now instead of angry.  This color-matching is a trait particular to her, but most kids will tell me what someone did – or is threatening to do – before they will try to match that up with motive.  Motive is beyond them (usually).  While I understand that child alters can be a very different thing than outside children at times – since in some cases the inside children have access to adult information and sometimes access to a “shared” older mind – most of the time, our inside kids speak what would almost sound like riddles…because this is how they think.  They will speak of things literally because that’s how they see them.  Their beliefs are a mixture of what they comprehend laterally from their environment and what they’ve been convinced is true by the direct influence of other people in their lives (e.g. trauma).

At any rate, I’m not going any particular direction with this post because I’m much better at asking questions than I am at answering them.  Astral projection is another controversial subject for Christians.  I do not practice it, I do not consider it a wise thing to mess about with, but I know SO. MANY. PEOPLE. who have experienced it (in usually negative ways…but not always), and I cannot dismiss it as something that has no effect on my system just because the subject falls outside the comfort zone of a lot of people who follow Christ.  It does affect my system.  Directly.  Daily.  Whether we “believe” in the idea or not, there’s some evidence that there are, indeed, certain spiritual “portals” (or whatever your preferred word is for it) in existence in the universe that allow spiritual entities who have legal access to them to come and go.  I certainly do not say this to instill fear in anyone.  The God we serve is aware of all of these things – and so much more so than we are – and He has provided everything we need to be victorious against them.  I’m just trying to talk about the difficulty of processing encounters like these, within a socially acceptable framework.  There has also been a strong element of the supernatural woven into my – and others’ – experiences within our system.  Seeing demons, angels, and other entities have not been uncommon.  Certain alters are better at it than others.  Generally the “seers” – or prophetesses – see more of what goes on in another realm than others.  I would also tend to say that being able to see the motivations, intentions, and original (or intended) designs of other people, might be considered supernatural.  But I’m not 100% sure.  At any rate, these are also common with us.  These are all matters that…depending on what circle you’re in…are not necessarily discussed openly amongst a lot of conservative Christians.  We end up feeling a bit misplaced and unsure of where we belong, if we are keeping so much of our internal lives hidden.  Thankfully, that’s not the situation today.  But it has been more often than not in the past 20+ years.

And on that cryptic, unresolved note, I really must end this right here for today.  Will pick back up again when I next have time to write. Cheers. ~J8

5 thoughts on “Supernatural and Paranormal Issues”

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    aelmorgan on June 12, 2014 Reply

    I don’t believe any extra gifts you received from the divine source are anything close to sinful in nature. Because of the trauma you’ve been through, you are attuned to the world around you and you are able to use your senses on a level most people don’t understand. There is nothing evil about that. Think of it as being given extra warning systems to help keep trouble away – after everything else I see it as a kind of proof of the higher power actually being one of love. – (Elizabeth)

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      talktoj8 on June 12, 2014 Reply

      Thanks for commenting! I agree with you for the most part. Trauma sometimes brings a person’s spiritual awareness to levels not normally experienced by people who have not experienced trauma, especially if the trauma had a spiritual element to it. I do think there are things to be cautious about in the spiritual realm, but caution definitely isn’t the same as paranoia or fearfulness. 😉

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    Richard Craig on September 12, 2016 Reply

    One year a community Bible study group I helped lead encouraged its members to share out-of-the-ordinary experiences in their faith walks. It was an 8 month course of weekly meetings. It took a month of encouraging before people began to open up. We discovered that all of us had such experiences but had tended to hide them away since we had never had a safe group setting in which to to share them.. I remember a woman who reported being beaten by her drunken husband years before. Next morning she heated a pot of scalding water and carried it into their bedroom. As she prepared to pour the water on her husband–she heard a voice say, “Don’t do that.” She was sure someone was in the room with her and put the pot down to find him. When she did not find anybody she picked the pot back up and stood over her husband. She again heard, “Don’t do that.” This happened one more time and then she took the full pot back to the kitchen. She later divorced her husband but never physically harmed him. The people in the group with major traumas reported more such experiences.
    Jade, have you come across anything that indicates fixed feeding schedules in infants can result in serious attachment issues?

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      Jade on September 12, 2016 Reply

      Hi Richard. I had to go back and read the blog post because your ending question kind of threw me for a loop. It seemed so off topic I got confused. Wow, my style has changed after 2+ years, which is probably a good thing. 😉 Anyway, I don’t remember reading anything that directly cited fixed feeding schedules as a factor in attachment issues. But I can say that my own personal opinion is that a fixed feeding schedule ignores the needs of a developing baby and teaches them from a young age that they are powerless to get their needs met in a timely fashion. Feeding needs can change; illness, teething, growth spurt, trying to achieve a developmental milestone…all of these things can make an infant’s need for the comfort of the breast or bottle fluctuate. If they can’t depend on their caregiver to be sensitive to this most basic need for survival, I can’t see the development of much of a foundation of trusting them for anything more complex. But keep in mind, that is all purely my opinion. If everything else goes “right” in a baby’s life – no trauma, healthy parents, nurturing relationships – I can’t sit here and theorize that a fixed feeding schedule would derail an otherwise fulfilling life.

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        Richard Craig on September 12, 2016 Reply

        Thank you for replying. I remember Dorothy Dinnerstein writing many years ago about “the project of reconciliation between the verbal and pre-verbal layers of our sentience.” I had no clue what she meant when I read this. But, when I took a nap soon after, I was wakened by a dark image with long hair. I felt for and directed at this image feelings of molten, viscous rage–rage I had never felt before or since. I had no sense of separation between myself and the rage. The rage felt part of me. My sense of boundary expanded with the rage. But the rage elicited no response from the long-haired figure.
        I shared this dream with my seminary class that was reading Dinnerstein’s book, The Mermaid and the Minotaur. The professor was grateful and my classmates didn’t shun me!
        While reading your above article my memory of this dream returned, The long-haired figure could have been my mother–late with or even on time with a bottle.
        So many of us baby boomers were put on fixed feeding schedules.I wonder how many of us felt the kind of rage I just described? I hope it could become a stepping-stone toward understanding the experiences and feelings of those who have suffered intentional abuse in the pre-verbal layers of their sentience.

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